Access to this super rare content; change dying passes for siterips

[gamgammele]

I'd like your opinion on an idea I've been thinking about lately. There are still some flawes, but in theory it means access to all content of any cracked sites (especially the hard ones; danni, femjoy, met-art, oliver klovoz, marquis), for every member of this forum.

What I'd basically like to see is a dedicated group of people get a rare pass and use it to make the content available to the community. For a month, they use this pass to get a little content of the site everyday (downloading little amounts everyday keeps the pass alive longer). They download the entire site and they make this rip available to the community through some major file sharer (more on this later).

Some notes

Inappropriate
If this post is inappropriate for this forum, please let it be removed. I suspect it's not because it is just candyshop^2

Crackers
I am in no way looking to put the crackers out of business (who now see their hard work die quickly). If anything, we are making their live easier; cracking will be less of a hassle than before, as the server-loads for the cracked sites will drastically decrease, making advanced and expensive anti crack measures (captchas, random password/username generation) obsolete.

Of course, they can always share the majority of the passwords while keeping a few passes private to share with the site-rippers.

Below is a three step overview of this new system

Step 1
Passes are cracked.
Dedicated people are selected (so called 'rippers'), supplied with the right site ripping tools and the cracked passes.

Step 1.5 Incremental site rips
Logs are kept of the cracked & ripped sites. A set time after a rip, the site is cracked/accessed again, and the updates are ripped.

Step 2:
The 'rippers' log onto their target sites with their cracked passes, everyday, and rip a little content (5 picture sets, 2 movies). They do this for as long as the pass lives, or until their is nothing left to rip :evil:

Step3:
Content is uploaded using the method outlined in "Sharing" below. Links are shared on this forum in a specific subforum. Access to this subforum is for activated members only (like "New Passwords section")

Sharing
Why share passwords but not content? One of the best reasons for this is that content is very hard to share. Not everyone has torrent clients and not everyone has rapidshare/other filehost accounts. However, sometimes it is impossible to make some stuff available simply through password sharing, as the pass dies to quickly. A siterip is wanted. Site rips are typically large (5gb-25gb), and an efficient system to share large files through remote file hosters is wanted. Fortunately, rapidshare has competitors, which means we can use this system for sharing very large files (even if nobody is in favor of the siterip idea, you can use this also to make your movies available to the public) without the need to wait long or purchase 'VIP' or 'Gold' accounts:
you pack your siterip into a split archive RAR, and upload each part to a different site...
So:
rapidshare.com/DDFBusty.rar.part001
megaupload/DDFBusty.rar.part002
file.it/....
depositfiles
rapidshare.de
mediafire
easy-share
filefactory
sendspace
filesend
badongo
etc (think of more)
Easily 1GB downloaded without the need for a user to wait. Waitinglimits for every different server are gone when the 1GB has finished downloading, so the next 1GB can be downloaded.

Flaws
-For movie sites this does not work. No-one is going to download the 10TB bangbros rip, as it is 100,000 files of 100MB each.
-Even sharing of large picture sites could be difficult: 25GB is 250 uploads/downloads (<a program to upload and download automatically might be nice in this case!).
-Uploaders are at risk due to copyright charges

Advantage
-Works great with bought passes

Obviously, there are still some flaws to be worked out and not everyone may care for this. What do you think about it?

Edit: Made some minor changes to improve readability

[Arizona]

Good idea gamgammele.

It happens that we're discussing similar options/ideas as you mentioned in the staff-area (I see no biscuits here…). If we'd continue with such an idea, would you be one of the members willing to take a certain site/niche to update on a regular base, if our crackers would provide you a pass for that specific site?

I'm also curious to see if more members would be willing to take a certain responsibility unto themselves.

[PJ23]

I like the infomation, I payed out for some sites in the pass and it did cost me alot until I found this site were people help to crack the sites so people can download the stuff for free [love it ], so this site is the best I've found. On here I'm giving the pictures free because it's easy to upload but the movies are harder to upload, so I'm doing pictures on here and a Adult DVD's now and then. I'm hoping in the future that I can hack some sites what I want to have in my collection, and hope to learn this year. So if anyone who good at helping a newbee on how to hack sites would be great because I love to learn new things.
Thanks for the infomation gamgammele

[gamgammele]

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Arizona
	Good idea gamgammele. It happens that we're discussing similar options/ideas as you mentioned in the staff-area (I see no biscuits here…). If we'd continue with such an idea, would you be one of the members willing to take a certain site/niche to update on a regular base, if our crackers would provide you a pass for that specific site? I'm also curious to see if more members would be willing to take a certain responsibility unto themselves.

Yes, I am definately willing to help, and I think this is something more people could and would help with. It is happening on a small scale already in the candy shop.

[fants123]

Well I am a ripper/poster I enjoy doing all that just look at some of the site I have posted
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
and I post to mediafire where you don't need a membership to download

[Minerva]

I'll be honest with you. the idea did come to mind and as mentioned here before, we did, do and are discussing this, but these sites you mention mostly host pictures, and are making it hard and tedious to download them.

So I don't think it's the problem of getting passes to those sites, I actually have passes to all that you mentioned (please no requests), but it's too much work i think.

I can get you a ton of sets that for some of these sites that I have gathered, but Ripping everything is too much of a mess I believe

[extremis]

Great idea gamgammele. Yes, it is hard to download all the pictures from a site, and even more tedious to keep updating, but nevertheless doable in my opinion.

I used to download all the html files with an offline browser (fast and easy), then i extracted links with image files to a url file using simple cmd commands or even basic scripts, and then downloaded the images with the offline browser. But now most of the sites have zip files that can be more easily downloaded (even manually).

[TBS1]

	Quote:			Originally Posted by gamgammele
	(<a program to upload and download automatically might be nice in this case!).

Try:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
(no, this is a DIFFERENT program also called "raptor")

Default language is foreignese, but easy to change this in the menu. Basically ques rapidshare downloads so you can e.g. que up a bunch of files, bugger off for a bit, and find them all downloaded on your return. The waiting periods still apply; raptor just starts the next download when the wait time is up.

Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with this program. It is not my fault if installing it breaks your computer for some weird reason.
One too many site rips will just bring the jacks down on you though .

[gamgammele]

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Minerva
	(...)Ripping everything is too much of a mess I believe

Using methods similar as proposed by extremis; downloading a vast number of pictures can be done without much effort and in a short time. And as long as we are talking about downloading a limited number of sets a day we are talking about less than half an hour of work for our ripper, everyday for about a month. A small price in exchange for access to an immense (and fast) network of siterips!

	Quote:			Originally Posted by TBS1
	Try: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Raptor downloads unfortunately only from rapidshare; if we are to use more filehosts then we need a program that can perform similtaneous downloads from each of these filehosts. Not only must it be able to do that, but it should also be able to know where to look for the final download link on each of these servers and it should be able to OCR (but there are no time/efficiency tradeoffs, it can take several minutes to resolve one image, meaning with the right algorithm it should be able to solve any image). I believe there are people out there (maybe even on this forum here) that are able to make such a program.

However, if this program fails to substantiate, people should download 1Gb a day per file manually from about 10 filehosts. This is more than doable, and takes considerable less effort than downloading the sets in that 1Gb yourself. The downloads can be done simulteneously, offsetting the slow free or guest speeds of most remote file hosters.

If it seems low, don't forget: 1GB/day = 30gb a month; meaning you have unrestricted access to most niche sites and smaller photo sites in a month (offline).

This is better than sharing a hacked password!
-Usually dies within a day
-If 1000 people use this password through the same proxy, the download speeds are still low.

	Quote:			Originally Posted by TBS1
	One too many site rips will just bring the jacks down on you though .

Yes, I fear copyright charges might (eventually, in the worst case) be the fate of the uploaders.
BUT: Using a little trick from cracking; proxy uploading/downloading could be an outcome. It is typically slow, but what works to our good is there is enough expertise here to supply our rippers with the fastest proxies. Again, the low amounts of data per day are to our advantage, as 1Gb a day downloaded at 100 kb/s is 'only' 3 hours. Using a download que-er you can take a looooong coffee pause, or do it during cracking. Using proxies to upload might not even be necessary because most uploaders don't keep a database of ips/upload.

For this to work, there should be available:
-Cracked passes to difficult sites (Check!)
-Ripping expertise/programs (Check!)
-Dedicated rippers (Still unchecked, but likely to be checked)
-A number of free file hosts >10 (Check!)
-A program able to automatically download files from 10 different filehosts (Still unchecked)
-Access to fast proxies (Check)

And the most important of all:
-A community willing to support this system(still uncertain). I would rather have a siterip than a pass that dies after an hour, but then again I do not represent a majority. That's why I've been reluctant to call for action.

Fuck me for being unable to KISS

[**mobil**]

it makes definite sense as a concept, would definitely take some focused coordination. I once did a site rip for a site's section (using a pass I bought) and used a dial-up (!!!) about 4yrs ago to do it. I think I used something called Teleport Pro and it did a fairly good job. Something strange seemed to happen, though, as afterward when I was archiving my file sets to a CD-r from my HD in that something made the disc image information think I was processing a 6GB directory when running files burned to a 700mb CD-r...the filesucker must have taken some site directory information along with the pic files...weird stuff like that...

I agree the file hosting and distribution would take some finesse for overall access to s-f members, that would seem to be the most tenuous piece of the system...the rest of it is fairly easy...