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Computer keyboards havens for superbugs - 04-12-2005, 12:40 PM

Computer keyboards havens for superbugs: study

Computer keyboards are havens for some nasty superbugs that can live nestled in among the keys for at least 24 hours, a new study finds.

The study led by epidemologist Dr. Gary Noskin finds that keyboards get easily contaminated by germs.

And that's especially bad news for hospitals. There, these germs can take the form of antibiotic-resistant germs that can contaminate the hands of nurses or doctors and then are passed on to patients.

Noskin carried out his study at Chicago's Northwestern Memorial Hospital. He says hospitals are increasing their investment in technology, and there's an emerging trend to have electronic health records for patients.

He adds that some hospitals are putting computers in patient rooms.

Because of the delicate electronic circuitry they house, keyboards, Blackberries, and similar devices make them a challenge to clean.

"The difficulty with keyboards is you can't pour bleach on them," Dr. Allison McGeer, an infection control specialist from Toronto's Mount Sinai Hospital, tells The Canadian Press. "They don't work so well when you do that.''

She noted another Toronto-area hospital had to throw out their keyboards when it was battling an outbreak of vancomycin-resistant Enterococcus, or VRE.

"We could not get the keyboards clean," McGeer says.

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Given the challenge in cleaning keyboards, Noskin advises that frequent handwashing is the best defence.

For health care workers, he noted that hand washing before using a computer is "superfluous," as "contamination can be transmitted from the keyboard to the hands of health-care workers.''

"So the best intervention would be to wash your hands (after using a computer) before you have direct contact with a patient,'' he tells The Canadian Press from Los Angeles, where he's presenting his findings at the annual meeting of the Society for Healthcare Epidemiology of America.

For the study, Noskin's team contaminated some keyboards with three types of bacteria commonly found in hospitals: VRE; methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus(MRSA); and Pseudomonas aeruginosa.

Both VRE and MRSA survived on a keyboard 24 hours after contamination, according to the study.

VRE can cause urinary tract infections and infections at the entry sites of intravenous or dialysis lines.

Pseudomonas aeruginosa, meanwhile, can cause pneumonia, urinary tract and bloodstream infections. The study found that this bacteria can last up to an hour on keyboard surfaces.

Noskin says that cleaning the keyboards with soap and water proved ineffective. A hospital-grade germicide did do the job, but regular use of these solutions could take a toll on the devices.

"One of the things we don't know is how using such a strong disinfectant would impact either the plastic or the keyboard circuitry or the electronics," he says.

"These things aren't really designed to be cleaned with a germicide on a regular basis."

You likely won't contract germs like VRE and MRSA by sharing keyboards at work or at home because these bugs generally don't exists outside of hospital settings.

But Noskin suggests frequent handwashing for everybody, since other bugs can persist on any keyboard.

"Keyboards will never be completely sterile," Noskin advises. "There are always going to be bugs there."

CTV.ca News Staff - - - With a report from The Canadian Press


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seems like i can't touch anything these days without someone telling me its full of germs and disease which may cause me a slow and painful death or at least a urinary tract infection. i say the more superbugs you come into contact with the better. helps the body build up an immunity to 'em and keeps you strong.

my keyboard is kinda filthy though, if i turn it upside down all sorts of crap falls out from between the keys.


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seems like i can't touch anything these days without someone telling me its full of germs and disease which may cause me a slow and painful death or at least a urinary tract infection. i say the more superbugs you come into contact with the better. helps the body build up an immunity to 'em and keeps you strong.

my keyboard is kinda filthy though, if i turn it upside down all sorts of crap falls out from between the keys.
What do you look like?
How do people usually respond to that? I hear you.In the context of seems like he or she can not touch anything these days without someone telling him or her its full of germs and disease which may cause him or her a slow and painful death or at least a urinary tract infection, I don't understand "helps the body build up an immunity to 'em and keeps you strong."
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umm, can someone turn her off please?


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seems like i can't touch anything these days without someone telling me its full of germs and disease which may cause me a slow and painful death or at least a urinary tract infection. i say the more superbugs you come into contact with the better. helps the body build up an immunity to 'em and keeps you strong.

my keyboard is kinda filthy though, if i turn it upside down all sorts of crap falls out from between the keys.

We are in an area where we fear all the 'dirt', and I'm with you that a little dirt doesn't hurt you. But you know that every study has a conflicting one, like the antibacterial soaps... something to the effect that is someone uses to much it can actually leave you open to simple gears since you have no immunities. *shrugs*
I still wouldn't like the handrails into grand central station, but a little doesn't scare me.


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seems like i can't touch anything these days without someone telling me its full of germs and disease which may cause me a slow and painful death or at least a urinary tract infection. i say the more superbugs you come into contact with the better. helps the body build up an immunity to 'em and keeps you strong.

my keyboard is kinda filthy though, if i turn it upside down all sorts of crap falls out from between the keys.

We are in an area where we fear all the 'dirt', and I'm with you that a little dirt doesn't hurt you. But you know that every study has a conflicting one, like the antibacterial soaps... something to the effect that is someone uses to much it can actually leave you open to simple gears since you have no immunities. *shrugs*
I still wouldn't like the handrails into grand central station, but a little doesn't scare me.
Do you think I am in an area where we fear all the 'dirt' and I am with you that a little dirt does not hurt you too?Huh.
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I still wouldn't like the handrails into grand central station, but a little doesn't scare me.
too true. some things are just to filthy to even think about touching but a little common sense should see you fit and healthy.


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I still wouldn't like the handrails into grand central station, but a little doesn't scare me.
too true. some things are just to filthy to even think about touching but a little common sense should see you fit and healthy.
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I NEED a shower,,,
Now if michelle would just come over here a touch my (erhm) keyboard....and give it a good polish. Feather duster and all that. LOL


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